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Has anyone out
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?
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Worked great for me, until the radio broke. I now have a micro-stereo bij JVC wich has a 12v input. Works better. Better efficiency, i guess. At hi volume the voltage drops less compared to the car-stereo. Rutger

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I work in industrial trailers located at
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices wellsites. Some of these are equipped with auto-type stereos run off a 12-volt adaptor plugged into the wall. Power consumption is not an issue here, but the car stereos typically have better tuners in them than boomboxes, and have provision for an outside antenna as a matter of course. Some of the trailers have boomboxes, and the tuners, IMHO, are pitiful, and rarely do they have a functional exterior antenna. I do like listening to FM radio
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices. What choice you make will probably depend upon what priority you place upon power consumption. Gordon Richmond

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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw.
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If you are worried about the power consumption, and especially if you have enough free space,
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices I suggest you to search for horn loaded loudspeakers. A cheap alternative would be to use plug-in earphones. Also find some loudspeaker elements with high sensitivity and low impedance. With a horn speaker you can get very high efficiency compared to box designs. Try Lowther, for example: http://www.lowtherclub.com/exseries.html DIY horn speakers: http://invalid.ed.unit.no/~dunker/horns.html Generally, I think the idea of using car stereos is good. They are made to resist vibration, extreme temperatures, humidity, dust, etc. much worse conditions than in any house. Search for high quality and durable car stereos here:
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an

An inverter may or may not be a better choice. Some car radios draw surprisingly large currents when idle. (large fractions of an amp.) If you can, testing the current it draws when just turned on, and nothing conencted would be some sort of indication. This may be difficult, unless you go to a car salvage yard and check their load of radios.
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We use an old am/fm cassette car radio – about 4 watts or so, nothing fancy, into a small set of stero speakers.  Sounds great in our place and draws about 200 ma at average listening levels.  Any louder and we have to shout over it to play cards.  Nice thing about cassette player is when it finishes the cassette pops out and the unit is off.  This unit is so old it has knob tuning, no presets.  Newer units probably have a small keep-alive drain.  No clock or light on this either. jb – Hide quoted text
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices-Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

You can use a “multi-meter” to measure the amps drawn. Generally units that measure up to 10 amps are about $20, upto 20 amps are about $40. Some clamp on units can measure up around 1000 amps! Even a cheap multi-meter is an indespensable tool. http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/m890gf.htm http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/vc9802f.htm <http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?st oreId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&TEST=Y&productId=124722 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

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Has anyone out there effectively
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

I was a mechanic for years in my youth.  We in the shops used a variety of car systems, usually recycled from wrecks, as shop entertainment.  My personal favorite was an early ’70’s Blaupunkt rescued from a Volvo 164 on the way to the crusher after being totalled.  With a good set of speakers, it’ll be fine. Russ

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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?
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An old fashioned one would do good , no fancy lights or electronic presets , this chews power , not a huge amount , but its a draw that is constantly there , even when the thing is turned off . I used to have an old Kenwood with a string dial tuner in a caravan , but it had great sound just the same , you can box your speakers for a bit bigger sound . I have used them in caravans and had one mounted in a tool box that came with me camping , they are good , I found they were better as far as reception and endurance goes . I had an alpine system that sounded great in the car , but if I left the car parked for a couple of weeks while I was working away , the battery would be flat when I got back , from runing the unit in ’standby’ ( I also had trouble with the headlights going dimming with the beat when it was cranked up but that was because the system was a bit too big for the altenator to cope with ) enclose or box your speakers , you will get better sound for no extra power used , and go the older style radio with the string dial tuner , then you know you are using no power when the unit is off , and you will do OK This is just my opinion.
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

Been using one for years at a remote cabin, running off a 12V utility battery I charge up periodically.  Built it and a CB unit into a little mahogany cabinet so it looks good.  It sounds great, but we have to disconnect from the battery because of the memory/panel light drain.     I’ll put an external switch on it one of these days… need to get a round tuit first.
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

I have a Walmart CD car stereo in a box with some car speakers.  I estimate it uses 15-20W based on the solar panel required to keep up. Never bothered to measure it.  I use it for jobsite boombox.  When you’re running a compressor and skilsaw 20W really doesn’t matter too much.  Only bad thing is non-digital tuner (didn’t think they still made those) *looks* digital but isn’t.  Good thing is it has mono tuning mode. Inside I have used a walkman + a computer speaker set. Also you could easily power a 9V boombox with a 12V-9V converter.
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fancy lights or electronic presets , this chews power , not a huge amount , but its a draw that is constantly there , even when the thing is turned off .

The two in-dash units I’ve installed in my life both had two power connects.  One provided power for the unit when turned on, the other provided power when it was off.  If you never connect the latter, the power is only consumed when switched on.  You lose the presets and such, but save power.
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fancy lights or electronic presets , this chews power , not a huge amount , but its a draw that is constantly there , even when the thing is turned off . The two in-dash units I’ve installed in my life both had two power connects.  One provided power for the unit when turned on, the other provided power when it was off.  If you never connect the latter, the power is only consumed when switched on.  You lose the presets and such, but save power.
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Or you can hook the wire that is suppose to be continualy powered to the switched power supply , for some radios you need to do this to get it to work. You still lose the presets , I just hate the hassle of having to press the scan button every time Myal

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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

My houghts, right off the bat while wearing my electrician hat, is that you are being fairly vague. i.e. If I were an electrician and you were a prospective customer I’d need a LOT more info before giving you advice or acceping the job.  I am an electrician, BTW. Am licensed as a regular electrcian, and as a limited energy electrician.  In this state the last are the guys specializing in various low voltage and limited energy systems.  Voice and data comm, alarm systems, fire detection systems, sound sysems, energy management and building automation, video, etc.  Also am licensed for HVAC, unlimited boiler, and plumbing. “Solar powered home” is a too vague statement. One starts with determining the owners needs and wants as concerns power.  In other words, what is the expected normal power demand? Then yah work from there to figure out what size load center to install, or solar cell bank and accessories, or generator, or whatever combo the customer wants and needs. Is 10 amps too much?  Depends.  Is it a need?  Or a want?  And how much money have yah got?  If yah have eough money, somebody will be more than happy to put in whatever sized power supply needed to do the job. In short, you’ve approached the question backwards. Better to start by defining you wants versus need as concerns the stereo radio/entertainment system to start with. Will a boom box type arrangement suit you?  Only you can answer that question.  What are you expecting and needing from the system as concerns performance?  How many hours today are you planning to run it.   How many accessories and features do you want. Etc. You are correct, normally the label plate data reflects maximum draw and the draw at some lower power output (less volume, etc) is less. Start by defining what you will accept as your minimal needs. Then list what you’d really like to have. Then start pricing.  Pricing can vary a LOT based on what you are looking for as concerns capabilities.  And so does power consumption. Always remember, there is no such thing as something for nothing.  Yah pay, one way or the other.  Everytime.  And if someone tells yah about a deal too good to be believed … believe that it’s unbelieveable. Now, at my lake cabin I have installed a car stereo type arrangement. It’s an older system.  Manual tuning with a dial.  Cassette tape player.  Off hand, I don’t even remember the make/brand.  Came out of a Chevy I scraped after my son was kind enough to total the vehicle while playing the games a young teen boy will play.  It has no fancy speakers or features.  But suits us just fine.  Where the cabin is located there aren’t just a lot of stations to choose between in the first place.  And our tastes are simple.  Yah got your basic country and western station, a decent oldies rock and roll station, and a talk radio station.  What more does one need? The speakers are not great,
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices but our cabin is not that big to start with and neither my wife nor I like music turned up so loud one must shout to talk.  Sound level is adequate for the main room.  Which is a combo living room/kitchen/dining area.  And it drives a set of small speakers in the master bedroom.  Sound level never turned up high in the bedroom.  Just a matter of having a little mood music in the bedroom when wanted. I don’t recall the amp draw off hand, but it’s normally less than what you’ve listed I’m thinking.  Memory says that much.  Add that it does not draw anything when turned off.  And we do not play it all the time.  Probably not more than a couple hours a day on average when we’re at the cabin.  Most times we’re doing other stuff.  Maintaining and cleaning the place, fishing, tending gardens, and spending considerable time chatting with friends and neighbors, face to face. We don’t feel the need to have it turned on all that much.  Often, I’ll turn it on for a bit in the morning, at a specific time in order to catch the news.  So I can hear the weather forecast and learn whether or not the world ended while we were sleeping.  Most times, after the news broadcast, I turn it off.  After all, this is usually early morning as my wife and I are early risers.  And we prefer to have all the windows thrown open, or to sit outside, and listen to the soft morning sounds.  The birds, sound of fish jumpig upon the lake, etc.  And watch the sun rise.  It’s beautiful. The thing may be turned on again in the later evening for an hour or two as we listen to music while reading, playing cards, making new spinner rigs and lures, mending a landing net, or whatever. In case of emergencies, I may use it.  Or I may use use a scanner and scan selected frequencies (police/fire/emergency response/ weather/ local county road crew/ etc).  May flip on the CB, as in such times listening to the truckers and such can be informative. If power is an issue.  I resort to a smaller, even less power portable battery powered radio. The question, really, is what are your needs … and wants … as concerns the system.  Makes all the difference in the world. Add, how much money have you got which you are willing to spend? What suits me just fine, may suck as far as you are concerned. My cabin is not wholly solar powered.  The solar system will not provide for all normal power usage.  It’s a supplement/emergency backup.  It can provide our MINIMAL needs.  Granting that in hard times we can utilize fireplace, the central heating is propane with a 12 volt supply fan if it is used, hot water is propane, etc.  If commercial power is out, and we choose not to run the generator, our cabin is set up like an RV trailer.  Some lights are 12 volts.  Water pressure is on a demand type system, 12 volt.  Pump only runs when you open a faucett.  Loading, when we wish it, is very minimal.  Main fridge is dual fuel.  Electrical goes off, it switches to propane. This works for us.  We’re used to it.  And have been at the cabin during storm and power outage and did not at first realize commercial power had been lost.  Lights we were using at the time were 12 volt. Radio was 12 volt.  Weren’t using anything else at the time.  Didn’t even realize commercial power was out til neighbors wandered over and inquired as to how we still had lights, yet our generator was not running.
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices (I don’t keep it switched to auto start) I solved that by installing a power monitor to sound small buzzer and flash LED when we lose power.  So I can kill any unnecessary electrical draws.  I can switch on inverters but don’t wish to except as needed. My basic philosophy is to minimize when power usage is an issue.  I have thought about this.  Have a generator at both the cabin and the main home.  And generous sized fuel tanks.  But fuel lasts only so long.  What do we NEED, as versus having more electricity for simple convenience?  Solar is expensive and must be maintained.  So wife and I opted for “hybred” system.  Shift to absolute minimal electrical usage when needed.  Propane fuel for many things.  Stove, central heat, plus non-powered space heater if desired.  We have two water heaters in parallel.  Going to minimal conditions, I shut down larger heater and use an RV type, fast recovery, 6 gal water heater.  In fact we have gotten so used to the small one that we normally only use it. Only run the big one if we’ve got a bunch of guests or somehing. On this sysem, our 500 gallon propane tank can last a long time. The batteries just provide lighting where needed (we only use what we need) and if we leave it on auto, the water pressure pump kicks in only as needed to maintain pressure in the system.  As I keep the plumbing repaired with no leaks, typically it’ll only kick on when a faucett is opened.  Then there is the load of the stereo, and TV, if used.  We don’t watch TV much.  And the cabin TV is a smallish, minimal TV. 12 volt.  <Shrug I get along without watching TV easily. We even have a small portable computer at the cabin.  It’s kept on a 12 volt plug.  I have 12v outlets installed here and there along with the 120 volt outlets. Just some thoughts.
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You’re right…I could have been more specific.  But the vagueness was due to the fact that I hadn’t made a decision yet, because I was wanting to get some input from folks in these groups  I don’t believe I was asking for anyone to decide for me whether a boombox was better than a car stereo; I was just looking for some experiences of others suggesting whether using a car stereo for a solar-powered cabin/home was a feasible and wise idea (and several have shared those experiences)… As for some specifics…  I’m dealing with a small, wood-heated, no running water cabin.  I’m planning on putting in a small solar system and add to it later if power needs grow.  But at this point I was planning on a decent 75-80watt panel and a pair (or maybe 2 pair) of trojan t105s for storage, and obviously a charge controller.  Right now the cabin is used just on weekends (2 days), with the intervening week available to recharge the system.  For summer week-long stays I may need to look at more storage/additional panels, but for now I’m basing the system on weekend use.  Right now I antipicate the following draws off the system: 1. evening use of 2 or 3 12V LED lights (draw 3w each) 2. intermittent use of laptop computer (average draw 20w) 3. intermittent use of am/fm/cd/cassette player (subject of this post) 4. *maybe* a small 12v TV/VCR combo (not likely but possible). So the point of my post was to get a feel for the power consumption of a car stereo setup for 3. above, compared to, say, a boombox (either 12v or standard using an inverter). ‘Several folks have already posted some useful experiences which lead me to believe that the car stereo option is a good choice, assuming I can find an older, basic unit without excessive power-sucking lights, etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My houghts, right off the bat while wearing my electrician hat, is that you are being fairly vague.
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You can use a “multi-meter” to measure the amps drawn. Generally units that measure up to 10 amps are about $20, upto 20 amps are about $40. Some clamp on units can measure up around 1000 amps! Even a cheap multi-meter is an indespensable tool.

That’s true….my only problem is that I haven’t bought any car stereo unit yet…I was just trying to get a feel from others what their experience had been as far as power consumption As for measuring….you just ‘wire’ the leads in ’series’ with the power in wire to the unit?

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I use a “Boom Box”  Find one that uses 8 x 1.5 volt batteries and connect your 12volt supply up to  the battery terminals of the Boom Box.
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?
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Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?

<snip of worries about power consumption Used one  in my garage, running off a 1 amp 12 volt power supply. Worked fine as long as I didn’t turn the volume up all the way.   I’m guessing that peak power consumption would be roughly twice the total rated power output of the stereo.  So for a stereo like mine that theoretically puts out 15 watts per channel, for a total of 30 watts, multiply by 2 to get rough wattage consumption of 60 watts, then divide by 12 volts to get peak amperage of 5 amps.  Bear in mind that the rated power output of cheap car stereos is highly exaggerated and may be 1/4 of the claimed value or even less.  Average power consumption will be less than half of peak.  This is based on gut feeling and years of experience rather than careful measurements. Go down to your local car stereo installer, pay $20 for one of the factory car stereos that he removed, and try it. — “And I can’t describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car, and drove home.  It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat.”    - source: “A Good Fight”, Sarah Brady, chapter 21, page 223 of first edition hardback, ISBN 1-58648-105-3
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I use a “Boom Box”  Find one that uses 8 x 1.5 volt batteries and connect your 12volt supply up to  the battery terminals of the Boom Box.

Now you mention it , my little bro had a boom box hardwired into his car , it was OK Myal
san diego Solar Panels Inverter prices Has anyone out there effectively used a car stereo as a ‘home stereo’ for a 12V DC solar-powered home?  Someone had suggested this in an earlier post when I was asking about music options (as an alternative to using a standard AC-powered ‘boombox’ and a small inverter).  But when I researched the specs of a few car stereo models, the figures ranged from 8 to 10amps (at 14.4V DC), which is quite a wattage draw. However, these figures were for *maximum* power consumption, so I’m guessing average power consumption (esp. if not playing at high volumes with many speakers, etc.) might be less.  Compared to the ‘boomboxes’ I was first looking at, however, (rated at between 10 and 20 watts DC consumption), the car stereo idea doesn’t look too hot by comparison. Any thoughts, experiences, etc.?  Thanks-

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You can use a “multi-meter” to measure the amps drawn. Generally units that measure up to 10 amps are about $20, upto 20 amps are about $40. Some clamp on units can measure up around 1000 amps! Even a cheap multi-meter is an indespensable tool. That’s true….my only problem is that I haven’t bought any car stereo unit yet…I was just trying to get a feel from others what their experience had been as far as power consumption As for measuring….you just ‘wire’ the leads in ’series’ with the power in wire to the unit?

Most easy, You have a spceial fuse with wires to the Ampere meter. So all You need is to pull out the fuse from the car’s fuse board and push the fuse with the connection to the Ampere meter in
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