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Whoa there partner,solar power water heater canada  Take a physics class, then a chemistry class. And after that Economics. You included the lunch but not what it costs. There is no free lunch.  You can use water in a engine as a heat tranfer medium, but you don’t get energy from burning it.  Water is already burned hydrogen.  So you have to put as much energy into it as you would get back out as heat.  The you would only get 20% (if you are lucky) back as motion, to which the tranmission would take another 10%.  Hydrogen is a pretty crummy fuel for car engines, but the expanation is way beyond your understanding of physics and chemistry.         The stanley steamer runs on Kerosene, not Water.solar power water heater canada  The Water is the engines working medium.  10miles per gallon of boiled water is not very good econnomy.  What portain of a gallon of kerosene does it take to boil off a gallon of water?         Steam tubine engines are less effiecnt than gas turbine engines because they operate over a narrower range of temperatures. And Gas turbines FLOPPED in cars, just ask Chysler.solar power water heater canada  They are great if you only change the throtle once in five minutes.  And Gasoline recip engines are still even more efficient than that.         If all this money were going out the back door you would see Astronomical inflation.  There is more to money than printing bills.   Take some economics.         This is Science and not religion, you can’t just believe its true for it to be.  Religion all you need is faith, Scince takes agreement from nature and observable fact. Kurt P.S. The worst thing is people who speak when they don’t know what the hell they are talking about.solar power water heater canada

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I went to the library and found a car running on water for fuel: It is the Stanley Steamer. It gets ten miles to a gallon of water and has a boiler, which is heated by kerosene. It takes 30

Calm down, everyone. It’s obvious this guy doesn’t understand the word “fuel”.solar power water heater canada  That explains that side of the rantings. Hey, George! The *kerosene* is the fuel, not the water! Oh, and guess who made the kerosene? Them Robber Barons over at Big Oil! Bob Benson I once was a Thug for Big Oil, but was fired ‘cuz I liked inventors….

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Okay, here’s something I can sink my teeth into… WATER FOR FUEL/THE PRINTING PRESS

(stuff about gov’t fraud and truth serum deleted) After we successfully audit the printing press, I will contact two American inventors. One American inventor knows how to run a diesel engine on water and hydrogen for fuel. You put a garden hose in your fuel tank and fill it up with water.solar power water heater canada  H2O is the formula for water. The other American inventor knows how to run a gasoline engine with spark plugs on water and hydrogen for fuel. They both need police protection from any thugs hired by the oil companies. We do not want the oil companies to stifle the information on how to run our cars and pickup trucks on water for fuel. This information has been around for several years.solar power water heater canada (As a matter of fact, General Motors has had patents for water for fuel for 30 years. Ask GM about this! Maybe we ought to use sodium amytol on the GM management team, then audit the books.) These inventors may have been threatened by the oil companies’ thugs.

You can run an auto engine on water, but not directly.solar power water heater canada  This guy I guess doesn’t understand the information he is spreading around. It can be useful to those who do understand it, but as he says it it won’t work. H2O is the formula for water, true enough. However, it is simple chemistry that says that it takes just as much energy to split the H2O into H2 and O2 as combining H2 and O2 to make H2O releases. You can’t just “run an engine on water.” You first have to split it into H2 and O2, which can then be fed into the engine and burned instead of gasoline and air. Actually, you would probably just vent the O2 and run on H2 and air, because an intimate H2/O2 mixture will burn *way* too quickly in an engine to provide an expansion stroke. You would also probably have to use water injection to prevent detonation and to provide a slower, more even expansion in the cylinders. If you take it this way, then this guy’s info is correct: the engine “runs” on H2 and water. The H2 burns in the air, and the water prevents the detonation common to H2-fueled engines and makes the expansion smoother and generally improves efficiency. But, the splitting of the water into H2 and O2 still takes energy, which must be provided by some outside supply, like a battery pack or a small gas-power generator or, if you just store compressed H2 gas in the car, you could use a solar power plant or a hydroelectric plant to provide the electricity needed to split the water. That would be clean power! Mazda, BMW and other companies have built and are testing H2-fueled prototypes already, trying to find out how to store enough H2 on the vehicle to give a decent range. (Mazda’s H2-fueled rotary-powered Miata with a metal hydride storage tank has a 150-200 mile range I think, I no longer have the article.) H2 is very bulky for it’s weight and energy content, you need a lot to equal gasoline in terms of BTU’s per pound. But, engineering aside, H2 is probably the cleanest fuel you can get to burn in an internal combustion engine.solar power water heater canada The oil companies have stifled information on how to run Chrysler Products with a high mileage carburetor in Tucson, Arizona in the past. A lot of people know about this. The oil companies sent out some thugs with a check for $25,000.00 to buy the high mileage carburetor. The garage owner said, “No, thanks, no deal.” Then the garage owner went on a vacation with his family. When he came home, his house was burned to the ground. The thugs came back and said to the garage owner, “Next time we will burn down your home with you and your family in it.” The garage owner sold the carburetor and the patent rights for Chrysler Products to the thugs from the oil companies. You can check this story out. The garage owner used to be a policeman for the Tucson, Arizona Police Department. This is the truth about the oil companies in action. When we find out the name of the garage owner,solar power water heater canada  we the people can cut him a nice check for all his troubles and stress with the oil companies’ thugs.

I’m not sure which carb this guy is writing about, but I have informally researched several high-mpg carburetor designs (informally = checking books/magazines out of the library in my free time :) over the past few ] years. (BTW, my best source to date is “Brown’s Book of Carburetors” and “Supressed Inventions” They are full of patents/designs for “supressed”  designs for high-mpg devices of all sorts) The most famous was probably the Pogue carburetor.solar power water heater canada  The press claimed it got 200mpg, while the inventor said he never claimed even half that. It worked on tHe “hot-vapor” principle, superheating the intake air/fuel mixture before it entered the cylinders. This works, but it also lowers power output and causes pinging, etc. at part throttle and on hills. All it really does is run really lean. You can take virtually any 10mpg heavy V-8 powered gas hog and lean it *way* out, get it really good and hot, run it at 22mph on a flat road with all the accessories off and get 30-40mpg out of it, but that’s not practical, of course. :) Fuel injection’s given us very good improvements in mpg while also improving power output and driveability, so I’d go for it instead. solar power water heater canada

All insulation does is hold heat within something longer than it would stay without it. If the water is cold to begin with, the Thinsulate, or any other insulation, cannot warm it up. If you add a heater to the water, though, the insulation will retain the heat longer and make the setup more efficient.solar power water heater canada  Thinsulate alone can’t warm water. It produces no work. If it did warm the water up, you’d have a violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and that I’d have to see! (In all of recorded history, this law has *never* been violated by *any* experiment or natural occuerence.) BTW, the 2nd Law basically says that nothing will spontaneously get hotter than its surroundings without the input of work. (stuff about crack, gov’t fraud, people selling oil stock, etc. deleted) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A week after God told me “printing press,” when I was shaving, I was cussing my fuel bill for my family’s cars and pickups that were running about $600 a month. God cut in again from my subconscious mind to my conscious mind and said two more words: “Steam turbine,” and then he laughed! It was a beautiful spring day; I looked out of the bathroom window, but I didn’t see anything. I had never heard of a steam turbine engine, so I started research at the libraries. I didn’t find anything at first, but then I found it: Westinghouse Steam Turbines, Orlando, Florida with 1,500 employees. Westinghouse builds giant steam turbines and steam turbine electric generators.solar power water heater canada  A steam turbine engine has a lot fewer parts than a gasoline engine or a diesel engine. A steam turbine engine has four steam valves, a crankshaft and two bearings that last 50,000 hours. A steam turbine engine is like a hot water heater. A steam turbine engine does not run on water for fuel yet. Americans have to figure out how to do that. A person from either Camar Steam Turbines, Carling Turbines, or Coppus Murray Engineering, said to put a boiler on the steam turbine engine to get it to run on water for fuel. Steam turbine engines are very quiet, so cars, pickups, buses and trucks with steam turbine engines would lower noise pollution, especially in big cities. Steam turbine engines are currently used in paper mills, sugar cane factories and oil refineries. solar power water heater canada

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