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1. Post a message asking solar power generator schematics how to post messages.  2. Put four addresses, solar power generator schematics five lines of “geek code,” six ASCII-art bicycles, a     PGP key and your home telephone number in your signature.  3. Reinvigorate a discussion by switching attributions in follow-ups.  4. Post recipes on rec.pets.cats.  5. Post a 56-part binary MPG file of your dog on new.answers.  Then announce     that you screwed it up and repeat.  6. On the MST3K groups, ask what happened to Joel.  7. Reacquaint the readers of rec.humor with the “two-strings-go-into-a-bar”     joke.  8. Post your new “War Heroes of India” FAQ to soc.culture.pakistan. solar power generator schematics  9. Start this week’s new AOL virus rumor. 10. Format your posts for 90 columns (or 20). 11. Post elaborate conspiracy theories to talk.politics.misc detailing how ATF     agents under the control of Chelsea Clinton and Socks have implanted     invisible microchips in your privates. 12. Fill that empty mailbox, make new friends, delight your postmaster and     selflessly lead others to riches with a few “MAKE MONEY FAST” posts. 13. Follow up a 200-line post to add only your signature. 14. Crosspost Amiga articles to the Mac and PC newsgroups for a valuable     interchange of provocative ideas. 15. Announce a mailing list for Bill Gates’s Visa card number. 16. Correct every spelling mistake you encounter, but misspell the words     “misspell” and “imbecile” in your follow-up flames. 17. Flame yourself, and complain to your own postmaster. 18. Ask readers of the Star Trek groups when they last had dates. 19. Follow up every post in a newsgroup, ranking each one on a scale of 1 to     10. 20. Post your trig homework to sci.math, and ask the readers to e-mail you the     answers since you “don’t read the group.” 21. Provoke insightful and productive debates on fresh new topics such as     abortion, gun control, the existence of God, circumcision, and the relative     superiority of Mac or PC operating systems. 22. Maintain a high level of constructive decorum by addressing someone with     whom you disagree as “monkey boy.” 23. Post to alt.folklore.urban that this guy that a friend of your uncle’s ex-     girlfriend’s boss knew received the donated heart of River Phoenix. 24. Relentlessly inform the readers of groups such as rec.pets.iguanas or solar power generator schematics     sci.agriculture of your UFO, JFK, OJ, NRA, NSA, NutraSweet and Azeri     genocide theories.  Relate them all to sunspot activity and ancient     astronauts. 25. Post instructions telling other readers how to put you in their killfile. 26. 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Accuse a fellow AOL or Prodigy subscriber of being a “newbie” because their     three months on the net are dwarfed by your own span of four. 37. If you’ve grown tired of typing, effectively end a thread by accusing     others of being Nazis. 38. Write and regularly post a FAQ about yourself. 39. Insist that there’s no such state in the U.S. as “New Mexico.” 40. Post only in Esperanto. 41. Claim a copyright on the word “Usenet,” and follow up all posts you     encounter that contain it by posting a bill. 42. Sell “posting permits” in news.announce.newusers. 43. In the spirit of purest optimism, ask other readers to follow up with their     account passwords and credit card numbers. 44. Why use a single question mark or solar power generator schematics exclamation point when you can use at 45. List a cute organization name in your header, such as “Canadians for Global     Warming.” 46. Insult a poster from another nation based on his country’s performance in     World War II. 47. Post vitriolic, frothing, hair-trigger flames in polite newsgroups as if     you were a testosterone-crazed adolescent debating in alt.games.doom which     shotgun is superior. 48. Follow up spam posts in the belief that the originator, who probably     follows the group closely and is desperately curious about receiving     feedback, will see your impassioned plea and be so moved by your lengthy,     point-by-point indictment of their conduct that they pledge to desist from     such activity for all time. 49. Use a 120-line ASCII graphic of Mr. Spock as your signature. 50. Post to soc.culture.women and ask, “What’s your favorite brand of oven     mitt, little ladies?” 51. Steer all debates to your own pet subjects of expertise, regardless of     their relevance. 52. Make it clear from your postings that you have a profound inability to     distinguish “The X-Files” as fiction. 53. 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Enrich the lives of thousands with a thoughtful and impassioned debate on     the topic “AOL users suck”. 66. Dispense essential and priceless financial advice, such as the assertion     that no one is legally required to pay taxes. 67. Demand that others cease using the letter “e”, as you find it “dply     offnsiv”. 68. Follow up another person’s posts every twelve minutes to accuse them of     “obsessing.” 69. Follow up two dozen of another person’s posts to accuse them of harassing     you.  Send copious e-mail messages if you’re ignored. 70. Start pointless debates over topics such as whether Whoopi Goldberg has     eyebrows, what happens when you cross the International Date Line, and     whether the bad guy in “Popeye” cartoons was named Bluto or Brutus. [The above list was discovered in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, and thus is not an original work of the current poster.  Feel free to add to this list for purposes of Usenet amusement.solar power generator schematics

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these exquisite 142 lines of text: 14. Crosspost Amiga articles to the Mac and PC newsgroups for a valuable    interchange of provocative ideas.

LOL!!!  I haven't done this one in a long time.  Thanks for reminding me! truthseeker (Don't forget to change header to seekertruth0 at mindspring.com if replying by email.) solar power generator schematics

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solar power generator schematics. the fact that i've seen 90% of these over the last four years makes it all the funnier. - jeff In article < 1. Post a message asking how to post messages. 2. Put four addresses, five lines of "geek code," six ASCII-art bicycles, a    PGP key and your home telephone number in your signature. 3. Reinvigorate a discussion by switching attributions in follow-ups. 4. Post recipes on rec.pets.cats. 5. Post a 56-part binary MPG file of your dog on new.answers. Then announce    that you screwed it up and repeat. 6. On the MST3K groups, ask what happened to Joel. 7. Reacquaint the readers of rec.humor with the solar power generator schematics

"two-strings-go-into-a-bar"    joke. 8. Post your new "War Heroes of India" FAQ to

soc.culture.pakistan.  9. Start this week's new AOL virus rumor. 10. Format your posts for 90 columns (or 20). 11. Post elaborate conspiracy theories to talk.politics.misc detailing how ATF    agents under the control of Chelsea Clinton and Socks have implanted    invisible microchips in your privates. 12. Fill that empty mailbox, make new friends, delight your postmaster and    selflessly lead others to riches with a few "MAKE MONEY FAST" posts. 13. Follow up a 200-line post to add only your signature. 14. Crosspost Amiga articles to the Mac and PC newsgroups for a valuable    interchange of provocative ideas. 15. Announce a mailing list for Bill Gates's Visa card number. 16. Correct every spelling mistake you encounter, but misspell the words    "misspell" and "imbecile" in your follow-up flames. 17. Flame yourself, and complain to your own postmaster. 18. Ask readers of the Star Trek groups when they last had dates. 19. Follow up every post in a newsgroup, ranking each one on a scale of 1 to    10. 20. Post your trig homework to sci.math, and ask the readers to e-mail you the    answers since you "don't read the group." 21. Provoke insightful and productive debates on fresh new topics such as    abortion, gun control, the existence of God, circumcision, and the relative    superiority of Mac or PC operating systems. 22. Maintain a high level of constructive decorum by addressing someone with    whom you disagree as "monkey boy." 23. solar power generator schematics Post to alt.folklore.urban that this guy that a friend of your uncle's ex-    girlfriend's boss knew received the donated heart of River Phoenix. 24. Relentlessly inform the readers of groups such as rec.pets.iguanas or    sci.agriculture of your UFO, JFK, OJ, NRA, NSA, NutraSweet and Azeri    genocide theories.  Relate them all to sunspot activity and ancient    astronauts. 25. Post instructions telling other readers how to put you in their killfile. 26. Post whining, misspelled and vaguely creepy personal ads in wildly    inappropriate newsgroups, and follow up to berate the readers for not    responding. 27. Announce that a particular site has opened up a new combination OJ Jury    Info/Homemade Bombs/Kiddie Porn/Scientology

Documents/Computer Subliminal solar power generator schematics Hypnosis ftp archive. 28. Post the Niemann-Marcus cookie recipe to rec.food.recipes. 29. Eliminate nearly all meaningful traffic on a newsgroup for weeks by    challenging its readership to come up with as many synonyms as possible for    the word "vomit". 30. Claim that you can see "hidden images" in another person's posts when you    cross your eyes. 31. Ask Austrian readers about kangaroos. 32. Ask Australian readers about alpine skiing. 33. Include Rush lyrics or quotes in all your posts. 34. Accuse female posters of being male. 35. Make an anonymous posting accusing others of cowardice. 36. Accuse a fellow AOL or Prodigy subscriber of being a "newbie" because their    three months on the net are dwarfed by your own span of four. 37. If you've grown tired of typing, effectively end a thread by accusing    others of being Nazis. 38. Write and regularly post a FAQ about yourself. 39. Insist that there's no such state in the U.S. as "New Mexico." 40. Post only in Esperanto. 41. Claim a copyright on the word "Usenet," and follow up all posts you    encounter that contain it by posting a bill. 42. Sell "posting permits" in news.announce.newusers. 43. In the spirit of purest optimism, ask other readers to follow up with their    account passwords and credit card numbers. 44. Why use a single question mark or exclamation point when you can use at    least solar power generator schematics

45. List a cute organization name in your header, such as

"Canadians for Global    Warming." 46. Insult a poster from another nation based on his country's performance in    World War II. 47. Post vitriolic, frothing, hair-trigger flames in polite newsgroups as if    you were a testosterone-crazed adolescent debating in

alt.games.doom which - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -    shotgun is superior. 48. Follow up spam posts in the belief that the originator, who probably    follows the group closely and is desperately curious about receiving    feedback, will see your impassioned plea and be so moved by your lengthy,    point-by-point indictment of their conduct that they pledge to desist from    such activity for all time. 49. Use a 120-line ASCII graphic of Mr. Spock as your signature. 50. Post to soc.culture.women and ask, "What's your favorite brand of oven    mitt, little ladies?" 51. Steer all debates to your own pet subjects of expertise, regardless of    their relevance. 52. Make it clear from your postings that you have a profound inability to    distinguish "The X-Files" as fiction. 53. Post 20-part encoded image files from NASA ftp archives that you claim show    clear evidence of alien settlements. 54. Insinuate vague conspiracies in all your posts. 55. Post alarming ten-year-old files about Congressional bills to tax modem    usage "in the name of freedom." 56. Claim that unidentified government agencies are censoring your posts. 57. Ask readers to collect aluminum pop-tops on behalf of Craig Shergold. 58. Ask readers of comp.sci.algorighms how to get Super Marios to the castle. 59. POST IN ALL CAPS. 60. omit all punctuation 61. omitallspaces. 62. DOALLTHREEOFTHEABOVE 63. Compose an exhaustively researched 15-part FAQ detailing the favorite movie    musicals of relatives of the "Deep Space Nine" cast.  Post it weekly in its    entirety. 64. Strive to ensure that no two consecutive words in your posts are correctly    spelled. 65. Enrich the lives of thousands with a thoughtful and impassioned debate on    the topic "AOL users suck". 66. Dispense essential and priceless financial advice, such as the assertion    that no one is legally required to pay taxes. 67. Demand that others cease using the letter "e", as you find it "dply    offnsiv". 68. Follow up another person's posts every twelve minutes to accuse them of    "obsessing." 69. Follow up two dozen of another person's posts to accuse them of harassing    you.  Send copious e-mail messages if you're ignored. 70. Start pointless debates over topics such as whether Whoopi Goldberg has    eyebrows, what happens when you cross the International Date Line, and    whether the bad guy in "Popeye" cartoons was named Bluto or Brutus. [The above list was discovered in

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<2. Put four addresses, five lines of “geek code,” six ASCII-art bicycles, a PGP key and your home telephone number in your signature. Or replace that with an ASCII-art dragon for equivalent waste. <<49. Use a 120-line ASCII graphic of Mr. Spock as your signature. Not even Adri would do something that stupid, would she? <<51. Steer all debates to your own pet subjects of expertise, regardless of their relevance. Oh, like developing Lunar resources such as polar water?

These remarks were uncalled for, Maas.  But then again, nearly everything you’ve posted of late falls into that category.

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<<I think it would be interesting, Robert, if you talked a little about polar water on the moon in asd. It’s not any more off topic than some of the things we talk about in here, and it would let us see a side of you that you don’t seem to share with us. If you want to know what I say about that, I suggest you use DejaNews to find what I posted to sci.space.policy.

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I don’t think so. Robert mentioned this in another post as well, that he posts on the topic of using the resources on the moon in the context, if I understood it correctly, of furthering scientific exploration of that heavenly body. — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I agree that the anti-Adri remarks were nasty, vindictive and generally not very nice. But I think it would be interesting, Robert, if you talked a little about polar water on the moon in asd. It’s not any more off topic than some of the things we talk about in here, and it would let us see a side of you that you don’t seem to share with us. Is this a tinfoil hat thing -? Aware1 — Toto… I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore.

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I agree that the anti-Adri remarks were nasty, vindictive and generally not very nice. But I think it would be interesting, Robert, if you talked a little about polar water on the moon in asd. It’s not any more off topic than some of the things we talk about in here, and it would let us see a side of you that you don’t seem to share with us. Is this a tinfoil hat thing -?

No, there is a serious scientific theory that there may be water ice in deep craters near the north or south poles of the moon. They crashed a space probe into the moon trying to check this a while back, but I didn’t notice if they decided if they’d gotten definitive results. If there is ice there, it is good news for the space colony enthusiasts, as it means that hydrogen would be readily available with only a 1.5 km/sec deep gravity well, instead of having to ship it from earth’s 11 km/sec deep gravity well. CptButton (Who used to be a space colony enthusiast and L5 Society member back when I had the energy to care about things)

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I agree that the anti-Adri remarks were nasty, vindictive and generally not very nice. But I think it would be interesting, Robert, if you talked a little about polar water on the moon in asd. It’s not any more off topic than some of the things we talk about in here, and it would let us see a side of you that you don’t seem to share with us. — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<2. Put four addresses, five lines of “geek code,” six ASCII-art bicycles, a PGP key and your home telephone number in your signature. Or replace that with an ASCII-art dragon for equivalent waste. <<49. Use a 120-line ASCII graphic of Mr. Spock as your signature. Not even Adri would do something that stupid, would she? <<51. Steer all debates to your own pet subjects of expertise, regardless of their relevance. Oh, like developing Lunar resources such as polar water? These remarks were uncalled for, Maas.  But then again, nearly everything you’ve posted of late falls into that category.

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<<2. Put four addresses, five lines of “geek code,” six ASCII-art bicycles, a PGP key and your home telephone number in your signature. Or replace that with an ASCII-art dragon for equivalent waste. <<49. Use a 120-line ASCII graphic of Mr. Spock as your signature. Not even Adri would do something that stupid, would she? <<51. Steer all debates to your own pet subjects of expertise, regardless of their relevance. Oh, like developing Lunar resources such as polar water?

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Got it. My supposition, based on a wild guess, was off target. When you talk about building useful things in space, are you thinking about a lunar station, or do you think the moon would be a supply source for a space station such as Mir? — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<using the resources on the moon in the context, if I understood it correctly, of furthering scientific exploration of that heavenly body. I have a more practical interest: Actually using the resources of the Moon to build useful things in space. So it’s more in the line of prospecting for resources rather than just scientific study. See sci.space.policy for the details.

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<<using the resources on the moon in the context, if I understood it correctly, of furthering scientific exploration of that heavenly body. I have a more practical interest: Actually using the resources of the Moon to build useful things in space. So it’s more in the line of prospecting for resources rather than just scientific study. See sci.space.policy for the details.

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I’m not interested in what you posted to sci.space.policy. I *am* interested in knowing about the things that interest you. You are a *whole* human being, but you have presented only a part of yourself in asd. I know you’re not working right now, but when you were working did any of the things you did contribute to the scientific investigation of lunar polar water? — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<I think it would be interesting, Robert, if you talked a little about polar water on the moon in asd. It’s not any more off topic than some of the things we talk about in here, and it would let us see a side of you that you don’t seem to share with us. If you want to know what I say about that, I suggest you use DejaNews to find what I posted to sci.space.policy.

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So the moon would provide an easily accessible source of resources, and the infrastructure would be a kind of huge solar power generator? What would the space-borne economy produce? Or are you focussed on the initial part of the project? — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<When you talk about building useful things in space, are you thinking about a lunar station, or do you think the moon would be a supply source for a space station such as Mir? I’m thinking about building up a mining & processing infrastructure on Luna to provide materials for building a huge infrastructure in the Solar System to collect most of the Sun’s output to provide abundant energy to support an economy in space thousands of times larger than what we have on Earth now. No longer would a growing population on Earth be fighting over limited resources on Earth.

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Seems a pity. With all the research that goes in on your part of the country, you’d think there’d be a place for you somewhere. — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<when you were working did any of the things you did contribute to the scientific investigation of lunar polar water? Nope. None of those companies/agencies working on such topics has ever been willing to hire me for anything.

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<<When you talk about building useful things in space, are you thinking about a lunar station, or do you think the moon would be a supply source for a space station such as Mir? I’m thinking about building up a mining & processing infrastructure on Luna to provide materials for building a huge infrastructure in the Solar System to collect most of the Sun’s output to provide abundant energy to support an economy in space thousands of times larger than what we have on Earth now. No longer would a growing population on Earth be fighting over limited resources on Earth.

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<<when you were working did any of the things you did contribute to the scientific investigation of lunar polar water? Nope. None of those companies/agencies working on such topics has ever been willing to hire me for anything.

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Does anyone have experience with make solar power generator Enertia Passive Solar Homes ( http://www.enertia.com )?  They are a builder of kit type passive solar envelope homes and are located in North Carolina.  Any comments on their building methods and their science. Thanks, Bart Nathan

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The terms “active” and “passive,” make solar power generator (as applied to production and uses of solar thermal energy) don’t help us much, really. Architects use them to keep Engineering at bay if clients express interest in solar energy, While they can make a little heat on sunny days, “Passive Solar” designs for warm weather may look good on paper, with all those nice little wavy-tail arrows indicating breezes, but the real cooling they provide is miniscule.

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“Passive Solar” designs for warm weather may look good on paper… but the real cooling they provide is miniscule.

It seems to me that “passive cooling” doesn’t have much to do with the sun. It’s more a matter of evaporation, and thermal mass with outsulation that’s cooled by night ventilation and then keeps a buttoned up house cool during the day. That can be significant, but it works better in arid climates. Nick

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OK, so “passive solar” cooling may work in arid climates. I’ll give you that.     But in humid equatorial climates, “passive solar” designs don’t do anything for cooling, except maybe make things worse, wouldn’t you agree?

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But in humid equatorial climates, “passive solar” designs don’t do anything for cooling, except maybe make things worse, wouldn’t

Couldn’t a black, steeply pitched roof (for instance) cause enough convection to create a breeze?  I remember something about a chimney effect solar power generator… make solar power generator.

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One thing I’ve seen work well make solar power generator up here in the north country for passive coling is the “Earth Tube”. A tube is buiried as deep as you can do it (6+ feet)  on the north side of the house.The ground temperature is pretty constant there (about 55 degrees). It should be at least 8 inches in diameter and 25 feet long. The tube starts in the crawl space and terminates above ground 90 degrees to the building. This is easily accomplished if you are building into a hillside and plan ahead for the tube at construction time. Vents will need to be cut between the crawlspace and the living area for airflow. When the sun begins to heat the house during the day, the air inside naturally becomes more bouyant. A vent placed as high as possible on the house, will act as your “chimney” for this heat. Also note that the vent should be on the leeward side of the prevailing summer wind, as this will aid the moving air. When the vent is open, and all windows and doors are shut, the only place air can come in is through the tube, allowing  convection to occur. With the tube cooled at 55 degrees, the air being sucked through it is also cooled on it’s way in, going into the crawlspace, up through the floor… you get the picture. There are also winter advantages as well. A well insulated house will form a vacuum in the winter with no incoming air to feed the woodstove/furnace, waterheater, gas appliances etc. Since the temperature in the tube remains constant, you can plug off one or more of the floor vents and provide pre-warmed air to “feed the flames”. Now that you have a pressure equalibrium between inside and outside, air infiltration is virtually eliminated! Imagine, winter drafts are gone for good. If anyone has any questions, comments, feedback or hatred and dissention, feel free to e-mail me!

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You guys up north seem oblivious to the fact that our humidity and solar heat at thirty-five or less degrees from the equator inverts the relative importance of refrigerated air – conditioning vs. space heat and vastly changes the perameters for collector orientation, storage. backups, ventilation and air-handling.     It should be obvious that our comparative solar uses are different.

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One of the things that Gary North mentions <http://www.garynorth.com is that 5% of the chips in the world <heck, even your $10 watch has electrical things going through will fail.  So, if you work your ass off and save off all this energy, and your fridge doesn’t work because of ONE little chip malfunctioning, it won’t be cute. Trust me.

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and pv panels, inverters, chargers, are not date sensitive either. One of the things that Gary North mentions <http://www.garynorth.com is that 5% of the chips in the world <heck, even your $10 watch has electrical things going through will fail.  So, if you work your ass off and save off all this energy, and your fridge doesn’t work because of ONE little chip malfunctioning, it won’t be cute. Trust me.

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I highly recommend http://www.windsun.com/ or http://www.backwoodssolar.com/index.htm your generator wont run forever, but solar will extend it’s life and your fuel. t…

Has anyone tried it?  Sounds interesting?

Well I looked at solar panels today, and guess The biggest that I saw today was 9 inches by like 36 inches for a total of 58 watts, and it was like 364 dollars. There went the 300 dollar generator plans. < easy come easy go Does anyone have a good source on solar panels? Thanks in advance.

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Has anyone tried it?  Sounds interesting?

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Has anyone tried it?  Sounds interesting?

Well I looked at solar panels today, and guess The biggest that I saw today was 9 inches by like 36 inches for a total of 58 watts, and it was like 364 dollars. There went the 300 dollar generator plans. < easy come easy go Does anyone have a good source on solar panels? Thanks in advance. Carl A. Stiles

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I am interested in finding info on making blowgun darts from wire, what kind of springy wire and where do i find it? What are some of the applications it would be used for in everyday life?

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I am interested in finding info on making blowgun darts from wire, what kind of springy wire and where do i find it? What are some of the applications it would be used for in everyday life?

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off and save off all this energy, and your fridge doesn’t work because of ONE little chip malfunctioning, it won’t be cute. Trust me. Most low-end refrigerators contain build solar power generator no electronics at all. Name some brands, I gotta check em out.

I’ve got an “Admiral” and I have several friends with FrigidAire’s   and WhirlPool’s.  No electronics in any of them.  A compressor that   works off of a mechanical thermostat, and a motor driven, mechanical   timer to control the defrost cycle. Remember that the technology in   a refrigerator is 70-100 years old.

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I have not make build solar power generator blowgun darts but would suggest checking a welding supply shop for “filler rod”  which comes in sizes down below a 16th of an inch.   The merits of this are you can get nice straight pieces with out having to stretch or weight the wire to take out the coiling curve.  You can get a bunch of different alloys,  steel,  silicon bronze,…

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Think guitar strings. Cheap, commonly available and just as good. I use them to make springs for my “45 caliber flashlights,” among other things.

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Chewing Tobacco,  build solar power generatorboiled down to a pasty like hash, then sealed and stored away makes a great poison.

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Exactly, Carl   piano wire!  That stuff is useful for all sorts of things!!!! One perfect use it has is in small game snares….if youre using anything but, then give it up.  Youll find piano wire to be far better ral – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thin ‘Spring’ Steel wire and ’strong’ wirecutters. Think pencil lead diameter or similar. Possibly hobby shops that have model airplanes and the like , or a GOOD hardware store. Usually available in 4 foot sections, but you will have to ask where it is. CAS.

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Interesting thread on build solar power generator darts, may I share an experiance from my younger days. I’ve used 1/2″ EMT electrical conduit as the blow pipe, smooth, streight bore and light weight. We then modified an old door knob for a mouth piece and got much better distance. For darts we used corks sanded down to match the bore of the conduit with a length of close hanger wire for the business end. Worked so well that I got in trouble for making holes through the garge door.

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Piano wire from your local hobby /model shop   perfect temper and perfectly straight.

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Ok, at the risk of trying to sound “know it all” here…. Both the other guys posting in this thread build solar power generator had great suggestions. Both methods, Ive used several times in the past….and both work perfectly. Bicycle spoke wire is a bit too thick and heavy for longer ranges…..but the heaviness does add some good penetration!!!! Problem with it is the availability.  The best place I found for it is the local bike shop where they remove and trash the bent ones….you can get 2-3 perfect dart lengths off the average bent spoke….totally free too. Welding rod.  Best part is it comes in so many diff guages….bad part is its very mildly tempered and will need sharpening every few shots. Absolute best wire you can get for blowguns….go to your local hobby/model supply store and check in the piano wire rack.  It comes in literally dozens of guages, all perfectly straight and perfectly spring steel tempered.  Sharpen them with a whetstone, NOT a dremel or a grinder, to avoid heat and loss of temper.  Chances are that youll never have to sharpen one of them again. You might also try primitive type darts as well…..they can be fun and educating at the same time.  A 5 inch bone sliver with a cottonball is something to behold.

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Thin ‘Spring’ Steel wire and ’strong’ wirecutters. Think pencil lead diameter or similar. Possibly hobby shops that have model airplanes and the like , or a GOOD hardware store. Usually available in 4 foot sections, but you will have to ask where it is. CAS.

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solar power generator spain Check out the Mercury solar panel. www.jademountain.com It’ll do what you need. Costs about 500 though. Personally I don’t find CE much of a computer more like a toy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I also forgot to add that I assume that moeny is no an issue. Let’s say you got $10K on your hands that you want to invest into buying top of the line palmtop and solar battery and everything else you might need–willyou be able to buy stuff that can work. would you imagine that i can run the palmtops with color screens with solar batteries. Escpecially if you got a palmtop running windows CE or something like that you practically gota  full fledged computer on your hands. Add a cellular phone to all of that and you got access to internet although it will be incredibly slow. So is there a solar battery that can ran both palmtop and cellular phone at the same time?? The only way we have of reducing global warming is to use less power. solar power generator spain

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Add more cells in parallel.  And always have a backup battery.  But realize that solar cells are a waste of energy to produce- if they made more energy than it took to manufacture them, solar cell factories would be powered by solar cells. Cheers! Chip Shults My robotics, space and CGI web page solar power generator spain

Solar cells do provide enough energy. The sun just isn’t reliable plus solar is too expensive plus (and this is the big one) no one has the room for all the solar cells you’d need.. Solar just isn’t practical outside of special purpose applications where there is no other option.

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Add more cells in parallel.  And always have a backup battery.  But realize that solar cells are a waste of energy to produce- if they made more energy than it took to manufacture them, solar cell factories would be powered by solar cells. Chip Shults

INCORRECT! They are paid-back energy-wise in about two to four years, and their life is nearly 30 years. The newer ones, the thin and amorphous types, take only down to one year!solar power generator spain

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Add more cells in parallel.  And always have a backup battery.  But realize that solar cells are a waste of energy to produce- if they made more energy than it took to manufacture them, solar cell factories would be powered by solar cells.

Or the electricity produced by *other* means is cheaper due to the big oil companies price fixing it so solar power and renewable is *apparently* uneconomical when in fact it is cheaper ! Same with nuclear power – the cost of decomissioning reactors exceeds 50 times the cost of building them ! The only reason nuclear power is still here is becase of huge government subsidies , by our old friends the oil companies . This is all headed towards a chain reaction which will turn this currently liveable (just) planet into another Venus due to global warming . Which FYI is not an issue for the big oil companies, being as short sighted as they are . They just want to make a quick buck at the expense of everyone else ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cheers! Chip Shults My robotics, space and CGI web page solar power generator spain

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Has anyone tried powering a portable computer with a solar cell panel? Why would you want to?solar power generator spain

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Andre included: Or the electricity produced by *other* means is cheaper due to the big oil companies price fixing it so solar power and renewable is *apparently* uneconomical when in fact it is cheaper ! Same with nuclear power – the cost of decomissioning reactors exceeds 50 times the cost of building them ! The only reason nuclear power is still here is becase of huge government subsidies , by our old friends the oil companies .

Petroleum’s loss of market share in electricity generation over the last 25 years has been pretty much equal to nuclear energy’s advancesolar power generator spain , pie chart halfway down). Oil companies would not be expected to welcome this, since even if they diversify into uranium mining, and for each $100 in petroleum revenue lost get equivalent uranium revenue, they’ll lose roughly $99. Governments, on that same lost 100 petrobucks, also tend to lose money, rather more than $100 in several cases*. It is persons on public stipends — salary, welfare, government contracts, whatever — that are the biggest and most influential group of oil money recipients in our society. In light of this fact, there’s another conspiracy theory, different from yours, about renewable energy: those on the public teat like it because they believe it is no threat to big oil, i.e.,solar power generator spain

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Hi, Has anyone tried powering a portable computer with a solar cell panel? In so case, which computer did you use, which solar panel, how many watts, and so on?

Obviously you want to use a battery between the PV array and the PC.  If not, then the PC will shut down when the first cloud or person’s shadow passes by. Thanks for any help, Knut Arne Vedaa

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<snip The only way we have of reducing global warming is to use less power. Now.

Or launching large quantities of aluminised mylar, to reduce insolation by a percent or so. — The fight between good and evil, an epic battle. Darth vader and Luke, suddenly in the middle of the fight, Darth pulls Luke to him, and whispers “I know what you’r getting for christmas!” Luke exclaims “But how ??!?” “It’s true Luke, I know what you’r getting for christmas” Luke tries to ignore this, but wrenches himself free, yelling “How could you know this?”, Vader replies “I felt your presents”  – The Chris Evans breakfast show ca. 94

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I use large solar arrays to power and recharge some of my mobile robots (and their internal computers) but this is a process of last resort.  Solar panels are poor in efficiency and take a long time to recharge batteries.  If your robot or computer is in operation it will surely consume more than the panel will provide.     Pocket calculators are not a good example because they are not high speed, in constant use, or providing control outputs for something.  Small computers generally draw a bit of power,solar power generator spain  although you will probably have a good deal of success running a palm pilot or similar device.

Gee, I hope so.     It will all depend on where you mount the panel if this is for a computer you are using.  The panels I use are about a foot square, produce 5 watts at maximum output, and are rated at 12 volts DC at about 420 mA     Open circuit, the output voltage can rise to 55 volts DC, but loaded it will usually be lower than 12.

You sure you mean 55V?  Or did you mean to type 15V?  If it’s 55V, then that’s a terrible waste of solar cells!  You will need some sort of regulator to prevent problems, but there is a built in reverse diode to prevent discharging a battery through the cell when the light is gone.

Battery acts as somewhat of a stabilizer.  But most of these low power devices like PDAs and cell phones use a switching regulator chip to increase the efficiency.  If so, then you could start with a 3 or 6 cell 3.6V or 7.2V battery and boost it up to whatever you need.  Check this out.solar power generator spain

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[snip] And the 5 watt rating is only for 4 or 5 hours a day too.

Assuming there’s sunlight.  :-P Your reply based on practical experience should be an eye opener to anyone who thinks we will be powering automobiles in the future with clean hydrogen generated from solar cells. The only way we have of reducing global warming is to use less power. Now.

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Add more cells in parallel.  And always have a backup battery.  But realize that solar cells are a waste of energy to produce- if they made more energy than it took to manufacture them, solar cell factories would be powered by solar cells.

Lotsa debate about this on alt.solar.photovoltaic.  I haven’t kept up with the threads but I think you should if you make such a blanket statement.  You really might want to, to keep from getting into deep water. Cheers! Chip Shults My robotics, space and CGI web page solar power generator spain

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No, really- 55 volts DC.  If you measure the panel with no load, it will go as high as that.  This is a standard off-the-shelf panel, and it functions well with a battery or other load.  Just don’t switch it cold into a circuit or damage can result. Cheers! Chip Shults My robotics, space and CGI web pagsolar power generator spain

Hi, Has anyone tried powering a portable computer with a solar cell panel? In so case, which computer did you use, which solar panel, how many watts, and so on?

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Yes. how to build a solar power generator I’d like to find a practical, illustrated how-to manual for connecting all the various parts. how to build a solar power generator Hi, I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently

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You will find a wealth of information in this NG: — Walter The Happy Iconoclast:  www.rationality.net -

how to build a solar power generatorHi, I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently in building a big system that can take care of all my energy needs as i don’t own a house. I just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power generated, surface area of panels etc. Can anyone guide me on how I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed? thanks, kjr

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Harbor Freight has five watt panels. how to build a solar power generator I would buy a fifty watt panel to start with though. www.windsun.com, www.backwoodssolar.com, www.homepower.com,  are all good learning sites Offgridman -how to build a solar power generator, I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently in building a big system that can take care of all my energy needs as i don’t own a house. I just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power generated, surface area of panels etc. Can anyone guide me on how I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed?    Cells are available from several sources, including Radio Shack    and places that cater to those wishing to build their own panels,    for whatever reason.   how to build a solar power generator

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Hi, I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently in building a big system that can take care of all my energy needs as i don’t own a house. I just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power generated, surface area of panels etc. Can anyone guide me on how how to build a solar power generator I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed? thankshow to build a solar power generator

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Hi, I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently in building a big system that can take care of all my energy needs as i don’t own a house. I just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power generated, surface area of panels etc. Can anyone guide me on how I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed?how to build a solar power generator

Cells are available from several sources, including Radio Shack         and places that cater to those wishing to build their own panels,         for whatever reason.         You may find the PV FAQ of some use, in particular Question 7.E.         7.E) Can I make PV cells, modules myself?         how to build a solar power generator

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Hi,  how to build a solar power generator I want to build a solar power generator. I’m not interested currently in building a big system that can take care of all my energy needs as i don’t own a house. I just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power generated, surface area of panels etc. Can anyone guide me on how I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed? Cells are available from several sources, including Radio Shack and places that cater to those wishing to build their own panels, for whatever reason. how to build a solar power generator

The cells available from radioshack are quite expensive for the output. A quick and dirty source for a premaid small panel is taking the panel out of a small solar powered garden light. Home depot has a pack of 4 lights for $19. You will be able to get 8 nicad AA batteries at 550mA rating and 4 solar panels that will produce 4.5 to 5V at 100mA.(1/2watt) (plus or minus other miscellaneous stuff.) If you want to go bigger than that, you can use a car solar car charger that you could probably get at auto supply stores. Or if you are lucky, look in the yellow pages and see if there is any company that specializes in solar power. Some boating stores will carry a small selection of solar panels. Some places that sell solar fence chargers will have additional/replacement panels for sale individually but I haven’t found the price to be very competitive. how to build a solar power generator  I don’t really know of a nationwide store that carries any dedicated solar supplies. Around here in Indiana, you have to scrounge to find any photo voltaic related products. If you are in California or somewhere else, it may be easier.

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Hi, I want to build a solar power generator. “”" just want to learn how it works, and do some basic experiments to understand the relationships between power

generated, surface area of panels etc. how to build a solar power generator  Can anyone guide me on how I can go about it? Is there any chain store in the US that sells the PV panels and other things needed? Cells are available from several sources, including Radio Shack and places that cater to those wishing to build their own panels, for whatever reason.

The cells available from radioshack are quite expensive for the output. A quick and dirty source for a premaid small panel is taking the panel out

of a small solar powered garden light. Home depot has a pack of 4 lights for $19. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You will be able to get 8 nicad AA batteries at 550mA rating and 4 solar panels that will produce 4.5 to 5V at 100mA.(1/2watt) (plus or minus other miscellaneous stuff.) If you want to go bigger than that, you can use a car solar car charger that you could probably get at auto supply stores.  how to build a solar power generator  Or if you are lucky, look in the yellow pages and see if there is any company that specializes in solar power. Some boating stores will carry a small selection of solar panels. Some places that sell solar fence chargers will have additional/replacement panels for sale individually but I haven’t found the price to be very competitive. I don’t really know of a nationwide store that carries any dedicated solar supplies. Around here in Indiana, you have to scrounge to find any photo voltaic related products. If you are in California or somewhere else, it may be easier. how to build a solar power generator

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